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When does it stop being old school?
1992
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 63% [ 5 ]
2000
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 0% [ 0 ]
Other, I'll explain below
37%
 37% [ 3 ]
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PostSubject: When does it stop being old school?   Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:01 pm

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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:02 pm

OK, my explanation....

I feel that the arguments for both 1992 and 2000 are very strong. However, I lean towards 1992 with the caveat about Lilia Podkopayeva. She was truly old-school. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:39 am

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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:46 am

SJPavlova wrote:
You need more options...


Do tell! I can edit it if necessary. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:52 am

I voted 2005.

The open ended system changed gymnastics more than any other thing.
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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:44 pm

So let's go for 1992.

'96 was a fundamental year too but only due to the elimination of the compulsories.
And as I remember, '95 and '96 routines are more 'modern' than the '93 ones. Birmingham Worlds in 93 kept the spirit of old gym. Brisbane '94 took another way with repetitive routines and I think less inovative works.

So '92 to end the old school time, 93/96 is the transitional time, and after 97 is the 'modern' era.
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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:33 pm

I tend towards 1992 as well. With the Soviets competing together as a team for the last time this way a deciding moment. I also consider people like Mitova and Onodi old school and they competed around this time, so to me this seems the turning point.
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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:57 pm

I wanna say 2005 as well. Just because after that, it all went completely over my head! Although...it's a tough call between 2005 or 2000. No, I'll go with '05 Smile
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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:14 pm

I voted 1992. Ussr collapse was a total earthquake!
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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:48 pm

I'm voting for 1996 for a few reasons. The abolition of the compulsories after the Atlanta games is one of the primary reasons, but the increase in the age limit in 1997 (1997 Worlds was the first major competition where I remember multiple qualified gymnasts being excluded based on age), vault values of 10.0 becoming more difficult to acheive, the fade of the old Soviet countries (Bulgaria, Ukraine, etc...) after 1996, and an increasing emphasis of difficulty over artistry all factor into my choice, as well. Gymnastics from 1998 on is particularly distinct from the gymnastics that came in the 30 years before- these changes were only just starting to be visible in 1997. As gymnasts got older and difficulty requirements went up, the artistry vanished and body lines became thicker and less flexible. Tricksters who can do big, but unrefined, skills started to become more visible on the international scene.

I can see the case for 1992, as well, but I feel that most of what made gymnastics so wonderful persisted into 1996. 2005 also could be used, but I think the turn towards the new system began back before 2000, and the mess that was the Sydney competition really pushed gymnastics in a new direction.
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PostSubject: Re: When does it stop being old school?   Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:59 pm

Ozrussia wrote:
So let's go for 1992.

'96 was a fundamental year too but only due to the elimination of the compulsories.
And as I remember, '95 and '96 routines are more 'modern' than the '93 ones. Birmingham Worlds in 93 kept the spirit of old gym. Brisbane '94 took another way with repetitive routines and I think less inovative works.

So '92 to end the old school time, 93/96 is the transitional time, and after 97 is the 'modern' era.
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haha i like this explanation.....i like the 93-96 is the transitional time!! jocolor
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